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What Should the Modern Workplace Be Designed For?



The modern workplace has undergone enormous change. But are we still designing offices around an outdated idea of what people actually need when they come together?

MillerKnoll’s Ryan Anderson returns to What’s Your Work Fit? to answer our lead question: What should the modern workplace be designed for?

His answer is one word: interaction.

Ryan argues that many activities offices were once designed to support—meetings, training, collaboration and individual work—have migrated to our laptops. That means the workplace needs a different purpose: creating the human interactions, relationships and sense of belonging that are harder to replicate digitally.

We explore what that means for workplace leaders, including why badge swipes reveal little about what actually happens inside an office, how workplaces can foster stronger team connections, and why organizations should think about “reattachment to office” rather than simply Return to Office.

The conversation also turns to AI. Ryan explains why agentic AI could make human connection even more important as people increasingly work alongside intelligent agents—and why organizations should be wary of creating workforces where people feel like isolated freelancers interacting with AI all day.

And Fran Saele brings the discussion to employee health and well-being: could thoughtfully designed workplaces help people feel better during their workday? Ryan describes opportunities ranging from respite and inclusive spaces to childcare and other practical resources—and argues that organizations must communicate the intent behind these investments.

Joining Ryan are What’s Your Work Fit? Executive Producer and Host Dan Smolen and co-hosts Mark Gilbreath, CEO of LiquidSpace, and Fran Saele, Managing Principal of MorteVita.

In this episode:

  • What the modern workplace should actually be designed for
  • Why interaction is replacing activity as a workplace-design priority
  • Why measuring attendance isn’t the same as measuring workplace success
  • Return to Office versus “Reattachment to Office”
  • Why AI may increase the importance of human connection
  • How agentic AI could affect workplace relationships
  • The role of mentoring, belonging and relationship-building
  • How workplace design can better support employee health and well-being

The bigger question: If we no longer need an office simply to get our work done, what should make the workplace worth going to?

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Why Are We Still Talking About RTO Mandates?



On What’s Your Work Fit? we pose this question: Why Are We Still Talking About RTO Mandates?

Answering that question and others is our returning guest, Nick Bloom. 

Nick is a Professor of Economics at Stanford University. And as the co-founder of WFH Research he is world recognized for insight on remote and flexible work.

We also revisit Nick’s earlier answer to the question, “What’s Your Work Fit?” His answer will resonate with many listeners.

Joining in on the discussion are What’s Your Work Fit? Executive Producer and Host Dan Smolen and Co-Hosts Mark Gilbreath from LiquidSpace and Fran Saele from MorteVita.

This conversation originated as a live show on November 5, 2025. You can watch it on the What’s Your Work Fit? YouTube Channel.

About our guest:

Nick Bloom is a Stanford University Professor of Economics and a world recognized expert on remote and hybrid work. He lives and works in Palo Alto, California.

EPISODE DATE: November 14, 2025

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How Can Relational Intelligence Aid Me at Work?



On What’s Your Work Fit we posed this question: How Can Relational Intelligence Aid Me at Work?

Answering that question and others is our returning guest, Denise Brouder.

Denise is the Founder of SWAY. She is a globally recognized and respected flexible work thought-leader who operates at the intersection of systems thinking, futurist thinking, and human potential. Denise is also the Founder of the Future of Work Alliance, a discrete community of solopreneurs and small teams that are innovating, building, and operating in the global remote, hybrid, and flexible work industry.

We started the live show by asking Denise: How Can Relational Intelligence Aid Me at Work?

During this information packed episode, we revisit Denise’s answer to the question “what’s your work fit?’ Her personal vision surely will resonate with many career professionals.

This conversation originated as a live show on September 25, 2024. You can watch it on the What’s Your Work Fit? YouTube Channel.

About our guest:

Denise Brouder is Founder of SWAY and a globally recognized and respected flexible work thought-leader who operates at the intersection of systems thinking, futurist thinking, and human potential. Denise is also the Founder of the Future of Work Alliance, a discrete community of solopreneurs and small teams that are innovating, building, and operating in the global remote, hybrid, and flexible work industry.  She lives and works in the Northern New Jersey suburbs of New York City.

EPISODE DATE: October 4, 2024

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What are the New Economics of Workplace?



On What’s Your Work Fit we pose this viewer question: What are the New Economics of Workplace?

Answering that question and others is our guest Stanford University Professor of Economics Nick Bloom.

In his teaching and research Nick captures the ever-evolving nature of workplace and describes knowledge workers’ growing embrace of remote and hybrid venues.

This week’s lead question was posed by Dan and our Co-Hosts for the What’s Your Work Fit in the Workplace? Series Mark Gilbreath and Francis Saele.

During this information packed episode, we also discover Nick’s answer to the question “what’s your work fit?’ His personal vision surely will resonate with many career professionals.

About our guest:

Nick Bloom is a Professor of Economics at Stanford University. He’s authored countless studies and opinion pieces relating to the economics of workplace. Nick lives and works in Stanford, California.

This episode originated as a live show on November 1, 2023. You can watch the show in its entirety on the What’s Your Work Fit YouTube Channel.

EPISODE DATE: November 10, 2023

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Why Won’t My Team Willingly Return to the Office?



On What’s Your Work Fit we posed this viewer question: Why Won’t My Team Willingly Return to the Office?

Our guest is Fran Saele. He is a workplace, and real estate solutions expert and a frequent thought-leader in the area of future of work. Fran’s professional passion includes the dynamic new ways of work and the transformation of the workplaces that support it. Fran answers this and other questions.

There are some roles that hiring managers believe have to be done face-to-face in the co-location. These may include executive assignments where, they believe, “being in the room” ensures that high level consultative skills are mastered. 

And yet, those same managers struggle to recruit prime hiring prospects and workplace veterans to work in the co-location. In the wake of Covid, many of their people learned to be intentional and highly efficient at their roles while working from anywhere.

During this information packed episode, Fran also answers “what’s your work fit?’ His personal vision surely will resonate with many career professionals.

About our guest:

Fran Saele is a veteran of the commercial real estate space who held senior executive positions with Accenture, CBRE, and Newmark. On social media, Fran publishes some of the-most compelling thought-leadership on future of work and workplace. He lives and works in Cincinnati, Ohio.

This episode originated as a live show on April 5, 2023. You can watch the show in its entirety on the What’s Your Work Fit YouTube Channel.

EPISODE DATE: April 14, 2023

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